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Prototype Devroom : Game Suggestions
Posted by Adrian Marceau on June 24th, 2013 at 5:40pm
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TheDoc
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Posted on April 9th, 2015 at 10:30pm #391 ( Edited : 2015/04/09 at 10:37pm )
@Adrian Marceau : I did misread your post (I feel like I've been doing that a lot lately...). I'm content with Strike Man's resistances.

Woopsies >_>
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Adrian Marceau
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Posted on April 9th, 2015 at 10:36pm #392
@rotomslashblast : I... can't really explain that one. Every other stardroid has a pretty straight-forward dual typing except for Mercury. What is he? Liquid metal? Poison? How do we express that with the available elements? I admit I got really, really creative with this one (maybe just crazy?) but my line of thinking probably revolved around melting, shining, cold metal, or... something. :S Anyone have a better idea?
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Posted on April 9th, 2015 at 11:25pm #393
@Adrian Marceau : Disclaimer: I have never played MMV. I just know that Mercury steals health and splits himself into pieces, then reforms.

I would say that his first type is Water just because of his liquid attribute. That much is easy to grasp. The second type is where I have trouble. You could say Shadow because he steals health and because he's poisonous. I don't feel comfortable classifying a robot's core by their weapon, but you could argue him being a Shadow type, so I wouldn't count that option out yet. Another possilibity is Earth for a second type considering that mercury is a metal (iunno if that's "earthy" enough for ya), but then again there's a lot of metal robots that aren't Earth -__- On the other hand, I don't know if I feel completely comfortable just calling Water on its own. We need Mikey a decisive person.

If I had to choose, I would say Water/Shadow. Earth/Shadow may work, but it completely leaves out the liquid nature of Mercury. You don't have to worry about the # of cores; Earth and Water are equal. Do keep in mind, though, that 2 stardroids are already Water typed...
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AlphaShurikenGSXR
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Posted on April 10th, 2015 at 5:09am #394 ( Edited : 2015/04/10 at 5:17am )
@Adrian Marceau : I arge with adrian with every his words so i will help the community in the spirits i posted couple of screenshot in screenshot thread of Tails MK4 and now will the stardroids bots they are quite interesting for me form megaman V wich is gameboy version it's quite interesting but i leaving everything to Adrian hands so his decision well i will try at least be more active on community that's all
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Tobyjoey
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Posted on April 10th, 2015 at 3:17pm #395
@TheDoc : Maybe Shadow and Crystal? Mercury is basically a liquid metal, and the closest thing to metal is Crystal. Water would make the most sense, but as you already said, there are already two Water Stardroids.
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ThatGuyNamedMikey
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Posted on April 11th, 2015 at 6:37pm #396
So, I did some counting and stuff.

Currently.....

Jupiter is... Electric/Wind
Mars is... Flame/Missile [Should be Explode/Missile, as he doesn't actually have any Flame moves; almost every move he has results in explosions, not flames. :P]
Mercury is... Freeze/Crystal [Should be either Copy/Shadow, Copy/Water or Shadow/Water, as he's made of liquid metal (Water) and can steal the HP (Shadow) and abilities (Copy) of others]
Neptune is... Earth/Water [Should be Impact/Water, as he has no Earth moves, and uses his weight, more than the earth; Guts Man isn't an Earth-Type, right?]
Pluto is... Impact/Swift [Should be Missile/Swift, as he does have homing missiles. Plus 3 of the Droids are already Impact-type.]
Saturn is... Shadow/Impact [Should be Shadow/Time, as he can freeze time, and he has a ring which doubles as a freaking BLACK HOLE (doesn't get much more Shadowy than that].]
Sunstar is... Flame/Time [Should be Flame/Explode, as he has no time freezing moves; everything he has concerns either flames or blowing things up.]
Terra is... Electric/Laser
Uranus is... Earth/Impact
Venus is... Explode/Water

Types currently represented by the Droids:
Copy: 0
Crystal: 1 [Mercury]
Cutter: 0
Earth: 2 [Neptune, Uranus]
Electric: 2 [Jupiter, Terra]
Explode: 1 [Venus]
Flame: 2 [Mars, Sunstar]
Freeze: 1 [Mercury]
Impact: 3 [Pluto, Saturn, Uranus]
Laser: 1 [Terra]
Missile: 1 [Mars]
Nature: 0
Neutral: 0
Shadow: 1 [Saturn]
Shield: 0
Space: 0
Swift: 1 [Pluto]
Time: 1 [Sunstar]
Water: 2 [Neptune, Venus]
Wind: 1 [Jupiter]
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Topmegaplaya
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Posted on April 11th, 2015 at 6:58pm #397 ( Edited : 2015/04/11 at 7:01pm )
Saturn should be Space and Time
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Meta
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Posted on April 11th, 2015 at 7:26pm #398
(I got The COPPA Form signed, adrian has it now. He messaged me about it), I don't know why Mars is Missile. I thought Mercury And venus had a lot of heat. Mercury could be Flame_Earth or Flame_Impact?
venus could be like that, IDK. Maybe Flame_wind for venus. also, Venus seems like a girl RM. :)
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Posted on April 11th, 2015 at 7:30pm #399 ( Edited : 2015/04/11 at 7:58pm )
@ThatGuyNamedMikey : I was gonna leave the Stardroids alone and just kinda go with it until their development drew closer, but now that you brought it up, I might as well :P

Jupiter: He flies and shoots electrcity, so I feel like this one is pretty straight-forward.
Mars: From what I know about him, he's basically a stronger Napalm Man (although Napalm should be a Flame core imo, but that's not what we're talking about right now). Explode/Missile.
Mercury: I agree with ToB that he should be Shadow/Crystal. He doesn't copy abilities to my knowledge and Crystal is very underused (not to mention that, again to ToB's point, there's already 2 Water core Stardriods).
Neptune: Your logic for saying that Neptune's Earth type should be Impact is solid to me; just be sure to keep in mind the number of Impact Stardroids there already are.
Pluto: Pluto does indeed have homing shots, but they definitely aren't missiles. I would say either a.) Keep the Impact or b.) Change the Impact to Cutter. I'm more keen on changing him to Cutter/Swift because there's already so many Impact Stardroids, original and suggested. There's a lot of other Swift cores anyways that charge you and don't have Impact abilities. I'm not saying you should, either; that'd get really redundant. Also, notice how many Cutter Stardroids there are.
Saturn: "Saturn has the ability to control time and space." - MMKB Time/Space vote +1
Sunstar: I don't really know much about Sunstar, so I can't really consult here.
Terra: He's a master of beams and lasers, so Laser is a given. I suppose also that since he has a "paralyzing" beam, you could attribute that to Electric? Well, the variety fits anyways, so I'm fine with him.
Uranus: As far as the suggestions go, there's only 1 other Impact Stardroids, so I'd be fine with keeping Earth/Impact.
Venus: His moveset is pretty much only Bubble Bombs so Water/Explode works for me.
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ThatOneEnderMan
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Posted on April 11th, 2015 at 7:59pm #400
@TheDoc : Here is a video of Sunstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOqxNoSyHCM&list=PL4Lscasoi2uskyDUoIxR0u3kELQz_5D3d&index=19 (MMV spoilerz)


Uranus throws blocks around, so I would say Impact/Earth
Venus, He shoots exploding bubbles. Water/Explode.
Sunstar: His attack are, A giant laser, a Fire Blast, destroying the floor with those fire blasts, Pharaoh Man's Fire Wave thing, a small shocking ball, Punk's spin attack thing, and a bright, screen clearing attack.
This is a hard one, but seeing most of his attacks are, a weapon that a previous robot master/MMK has used, and a lot of them are fire like ones, so, I would say Flame/Copy.

TEEEEHHAIR! Terra: His attack are, a homing laser, a green, stunning, wheel attack, and turning invisible and then teleporting. Tough one, but Laser/Impact or laser/Electric.
Mars, He shoots small gun shots, and he has a landmine attack. Explode/Impact maybe?
Saturn: "Saturn has the ability to control time and space." - MMKB Time/Space vote +1.
Neptune: Water/Impact I don't really have much to say here.


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Topmegaplaya
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Posted on April 12th, 2015 at 7:32am #401
i was right about Saturn
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Posted on April 19th, 2015 at 12:56am #402
Have some more stat changes, ones regarding the Genesis Unit from the Mega Man title on Genesis, Wily Wars!

Mega Water S-He's weak to Wind and Cutter. This couldn't be, because the Metal Blade, Rolling Cutter, and Air Shooter don't do any damage to him. He takes the most damage from Ice Slasher[meaning Ice], and Hyper Bomb. However, Hyper Bomb works much better for Buster Rod G than him, so the next attack that causes the most damage is....Search Snake, meaning Nature. From Hitoshi Ariga's manga, he even confirms the ice weakness.
"his body is filled with liquid. This results in an increased weakness to cold attacks, as the expanding of the liquid when it freezes causes damage to Mega Water S from the inside out."

Buster Rod G-He's weak to Water and Freeze. He's a pretty frail robot, and this is most apparent in his damage units from Wily Wars. He takes the most damage from Hard Knuckle, meaning Impact, and Hyper Bomb, meaning Explode. It makes sense to me, seeing as those are hard-hitting types and Buster himself isn't too good on defending himself.

Hyper Storm H-He's weak to Swift and Explode. This guy gets devastated by Fire Storm and Atomic Fire, meaning Flame. As for some other weaknesses, they conflict, but he does take some damage from Spark Shot and Thunder Beam. Maybe his second weakness could be Electric?
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TailsMK4
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Posted on April 19th, 2015 at 3:48am #403
gemini-man ...I really believe that Hyper Storm should have the Explode weakness since that's the weapon that does the most to him, but Hyper Bomb does more to Buster...but when seeing Crash Bomber, Buster only takes 1 damage compared to Hyper Storm getting 2. With that said, I have to disagree about Buster's second weakness. It fits more for Hyper Storm to have that weakness since that's actually his official weakness. I would support Explode and Flame for Hyper Storm.

I agree that Buster's main weakness is Impact, though. Looking down the list, Air Shooter does 4 damage to Buster, but so does Bubble Lead. Among the four elements represented here, Impact is already covered. I'm leaning towards Water, otherwise Dust Crusher or Oil Slider would be x4 on him, and Mikey would not approve of a x4 weakness for a boss, or said boss having three weaknesses. :P ring-ring
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ThatGuyNamedMikey
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Posted on April 19th, 2015 at 8:19am #404 ( Edited : 2015/04/19 at 8:27am )
@TailsMK4 : who called my name?

How come Mega Water S doesn't have 200 Health, by the way? He has 56 HP when you fight him, officially, no?

That said, we could talk about the MM8 bots having 142 Health, too, as they have 40 HP [1 3/7 what a RM usually has], officially. That should shake up their stats a bit.
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Posted on April 19th, 2015 at 2:34pm #405
@ThatGuyNamedMikey : "How come Mega Water S doesn't have 200 Health, by the way? He has 56 HP when you fight him, officially, no?"

You're thinking of Hyper Storm H.
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